Showing posts with label Sharia. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sharia. Show all posts

Friday, August 12, 2011

Here is the missing piece of the puzzle that renders absurd the new Judeo-American and Judeo-European crusade against Islam:

"Jewish law' is the Talmud and the Halakha, the Jewish equivalent of the Muslim Sharia. It means in practice that legal norms adopted 1500 years ago and more will trump the legal norms evolved over recent centuries in Britain and other European countries. Similar clauses exist in the laws of countries like Pakistan and Egypt. The similarity between Jewish and Islamic law is not accidental - Arabic-speaking Jewish sages, like Moses Maimonides ('the Rambam') and their contemporary Muslim legal experts influenced each other."
Source: Uri Avnery, "Dichter's Law," August 12, 2011

Islam was profoundly influenced by the Talmud. This is evidenced in part by Islam's hostility toward St. Paul and its denial of the Resurrection, two principal rabbinic doctrines.

Judaism was formerly allied with Islam against Christianity. 

The Crusades were wars waged against Islam and Judaism.

The American Protestant Fundamentalist and Catholic neocon crusade against Islam has only one eye. It   will not see Judaism’s evil or its influence over Islam. It will not see that Sharia and Talmudic halacha are equally deserving of vigilance and exposure. 

In the kingdom of the blind, one-eyed people are kings.

Michael Hoffman

On Aug 12, 2011, at 17:30, JP wrote:

Mr. Hoffman: Perhaps you can send some references (books, articles, etc...) that supports the idea that Judaism is equal to Islam. I know Fr. Raphael Johnson holds this view.
Thank you.

JP

Dear JP

Judaism = Islam is not an equation I have ever put forth.

Islam is the farthest out of all the Christian heresies; it was bent by Judaism; that does not mean that it is synonymous with Judaism.

There are similarities between Sharia and Talmudic law but Islam is absent self-worship and racism -- a huge distinguishing factor.

I am not acquainted with Rev. Raphael Johnson.

Sincerely,
Michael Hoffman
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Thursday, May 19, 2011

Racist Rabbis Operate Missouri Bar-Accredited Continuing Legal Education Talmud Training for Lawyers

BY MICHAEL HOFFMAN
www.revisionisthistory.org • May 19, 2011


In the “seminar accredited for Continuing Legal Education (CLE) by the Missouri Bar” reported in the press release below, St. Louis, Missouri lawyers who attend will be schooled by Chabad rabbis in the Babylonian Talmud, a handbook on lying, deceit and wrong-doing which desecrates the name and memory of Jesus Christ (Sanhedrin 43a; Gittin 57a), and His Blessed Mother Mary (Sanhedrin 106a; Kallah 51a), permits sex with children (Sanhedrin 69b in The Talmud: The Steinsaltz Edition [Random House, 1999] vol. 19, p. 13; also cf. Ketubot 11b and Sanhedrin 54b) and teaches that Judaic males are above God (Bava Metzia 59b). 


Chabad (also known as “Chabad-Lubavitch") is a Hasidic faction of Orthodox Judaism that derives its halacha (law) from the pagan-occult Zohar (Kabbalah), and the Babylonian Talmud, along with the sacred texts of the founder of Chabad, Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Lyady. One of Rabbi Zalman’s texts, Tanya, teaches that the souls of gentiles "contain no good whatever” (Opening the Tanya, p. 43).


Chabad-Lubavitch supports Judaic racist-terrorist “settler” groups in the Palestinian occupied territories. Individual Chabadniks have promoted Baruch Goldstein, the mass murderer who slaughtered forty Palestinians while they knelt in prayer in the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron, on Purim, 1994.  


Chabad-Lubavitch Community Center and United Lubavitcher Yeshiva hosted a U.S. speaking tour for one of Chabad’s rabbis, Yitzhak Ginsburg, president of the racist Od Yosef Chai yeshiva in the violence-prone West Bank settlement of Yitzhar, and the author of a text praising Goldstein, which is titled, Five General Religious Duties Which Lie Behind the Act of the Saintly, Late Rabbi Baruch Goldstein.


Tea Party golem and their leaders in Congress are running amok over the alleged possibility of Islamic Sharia law being implemented in the United States, while Babylonian Talmudic law continues its deep penetration of American jurisprudence without a peep of protest from these “Constitutionalists" who shriek alarms from coast to coast about the horrors of “Sharia.”


The state of Missouri requires attorneys to be members of the Missouri Bar in order to practice law in Missouri. The Missouri Bar was created in 1944 by order of the Supreme Court of Missouri. Talmudic institutions like Chabad, which are authorized to offer Continuing Legal Education credits to lawyers are thereby accredited by the state of Missouri through the Missouri Bar. 


In the United States of America in 2011 it would appear that the Constitution provides for separation of Church and State, and Mosque and State, but not Synagogue and State.


Copyright ©2011 by Michael Hoffman


(Hoffman is the author of the 1100 page textbook, Judaism Discovered and operates the blog, Truth About the Talmud.)

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Chabad Presents 




The 17th Conference on Talmud and Contemporary Law
Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 12:45 pm – 5:15 pm
The Center of Clayton, 50 Gay Ave., Clayton, Missouri (directions below)

St. Louis, Missouri — Chabad of Greater St. Louis will host its annual Conference on Talmud and Contemporary Law on June 1. The seminar has been accredited for Continuing Legal Education (CLE) by the Missouri Bar since its inception 16 years ago, and will be held at the Center of Clayton. It is open to the entire St. Louis legal community.

The conference was designed to provide a forum for the comparative analysis of legal, ethical and public policy issues under Jewish and secular law. It offers modern legal minds the opportunity to explore age-old Jewish legal principles and their relevance to current law and public policy.

Participants will be addressed by prominent scholars at the intersection of Talmudic and secular law.This program is offered by Chabad of Greater St. Louis in partnership with the Cardoza Society of the Jewish Federation of St. Louis.

PRESENTERS:

SAMUEL J. LEVINE is Professor of Law and Director of the Jewish Law Institute at Touro Law Center. Previously he served on the faculty of Pepperdine University School of Law in Malibu, California. He has published more than forty law review articles and has lectured widely in the areas of legal ethics, criminal law, law and religion, Jewish law, and constitutional law. Professor Levine graduated cum laude from Fordham Law School and with highest honors as a James Kent Scholar from Columbia Law School.

RABBI SHLOMO YAFFE applies his prodigious mind and booming voice to the mastery and teaching of Talmudic law and Chassidic philosophy. A prolific writer and speaker, he received his Rabbinic ordination from the Central Chabad Rabbinic Academy in New York. He is the Dean of the Institute for American and Talmudic Law, and lectures nationwide to appreciative audiences. He currently serves as the Scholar-in-Residence at Chabad of Harvard University.

TOPICS:

THE BIN LADEN KILLING: EXTRA JUDICIAL EXECUTION, INCARCERATION AND OTHER SANCTIONS IN JUDAIC LAW - What are the factors distinguishing between the prosecution of warfare and the need for legal procedure? We will examine the highly developed sense for the role of the extra judicial in Talmudic law, and compare this with contemporary American and International Law.

LAWYERLY ADVICE: VIGOROUS COUNSEL OR SUBORNING PERJURY? - One of the most troubling "grey areas" in the practice of law is the ethical question of where a lawyer’s advice crosses the line from helping the client make a good case into providing a recipe for perjury. We will examine both precedent and practice regarding this thorny issue in the American legal system, and we will explore the means that Judaic law uses to address this ethical problem.

EXAMINING AMERICAN CODES OF PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITY THROUGH THE PERSPECTIVE OF JEWISH LAW AND ETHICS - A critique of the American Bar Association's Model Rules of Professional Conduct, arguing that the rules leave too many ethical decisions to the discretion of the legal professional. We will highlight principles in Jewish law which impose defined ethical obligations that are mandatory rather than optional.

TALMUDIC CITATIONS IN AMERICAN JUDICIAL OPINIONS: A CRITICAL ANALYSIS - A survey of judicial citations to Jewish and Talmudic law in several complex and controversial areas of American law. Through a careful analysis of these judicial opinions we will explore the accuracy and relevance of these citations, and their application to the legal issues at hand.

DIRECTIONS:
The Center of Clayton is located on Gay Ave., just south of Maryland Ave., east of the I-170 Ladue exit.

REGISTRATION:
To register please complete the online registration form below. Payment can be made via the online registration form or by mailing a check. Checks should be made payable to Chabad of Greater St. Louis and can be mailed to 8124 Delmar Blvd. 63130. For additional information or late registration please email CLE@showmechabad.com or call 314-725-0400.

CREDITS:
5.2 MCLE Credits, including 2.6 Legal Ethics Credits

COST: $175*
*Please indicate in the comments section if you are a Cordoza Society Member to receive $50 discount

For secure online reservations and additional information, visit www.ShowMeChabad.com/CLE or call Chabad at 314-725-0400.

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Monday, August 9, 2010

Michael Hoffman’s dissent immediately follows the article below, which was circulated by Mr. Paul Fromm of the Canadian Association for Free Expression

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WARNING ABOUT ISLAM BY GEERT WILDERS

In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: Who lost Europe?

Here is the speech of Geert Wilders, Chairman, Party for Freedom, the Netherlands, at the Four Seasons, New York, introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem 
Dear friends,

Thank you very much for inviting me. I come to America with a mission.  All is not well in the old world.  There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe.  This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West.  The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.

First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe.  Then, I will say a few things about Islam.  To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem.

The Europe you know is changing. You have probably seen the landmarks.  But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world.  It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration.

All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen.  And if they are, they might regret it.  This goes for the police as well.  It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children.  Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead.  With mosques on many street corners.  The shops have signs you and I cannot read.  You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity.  These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics.  These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe.  With larger congregations than there are in churches.  And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region.  Clearly, the signal is: we rule.

Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam , Marseille and Malmo in Sweden .  In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim.  Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods.  Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities.
In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.

Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils.  In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims.  Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'.  Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.

In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin.  The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.

In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves.  Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels , because he was drinking during the Ramadan.

Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II.  French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel.  I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe.  San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

Now these are just numbers.  And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate.  But there are few signs of that.  The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France.  One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks.  The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate.  Muslims demand what they call 'respect'.  And this is how we give them respect.  We have Muslim official state holidays. The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority.  We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.

Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots.  Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus.  I call the perpetrators 'settlers'.  Because that is what they are.  They do not come to integrate into our societies; they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam.  Therefore, they are settlers. Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries.  Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.

The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet.  His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized.  Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem.  But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time.  Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed.  Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza.  If it is good for Islam, it is good.  If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion.  Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins.  But in its essence Islam is a political ideology.  It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person.  Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life.  Islam means 'submission'.  Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia.  If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran.  The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor.  I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times.  I support Israel.  First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.
This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance.  Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia.  Israel is simply in the way.  The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

The war against Israel is not a war against Israel.  It is a war against the West.  It is jihad.  Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us.  If there would have been no Israel , Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest.  Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.

Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities.  But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West.  It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values.

On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam.  They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed.  The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning.  It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination.  If they can get Israel, they can get everything.

So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'.  In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II.  And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat.  Yet there is a greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing.  The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine.  An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America -- as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem.

Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts.  My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives.  All throughout Europe, American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish.  My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians.  We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe 's children in the same state in which it was offered to us.  We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams.  Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties.  We simply do not have the right to do so. We have to take the necessary action now to stop this Islamic stupidity from destroying the free world that we know.


Michael Hoffman contra Geert Wilders: 
Sharia Law protested, Talmudic Law not an issue

I will address the two main fallacies which Mr. Wilders advances: 1. Alliance with Judaism and Zionism 2. Obsession with the symptoms rather than the root of the European demographic crisis.

1. Alliance with Judaism and Zionism

Wilders claims the Israelis are part of the West. What nonsense. Talmudism was allied with Islam for centuries. Jonathan Pollard's spying benefited Pakistan through Mossad. Today Egypt is an Israeli satrapy.

Who backed Islamic immigration into Europe in the first place? Major Zionist organizations, that's who. Do some research on Marek Halter; also the Conseil Representif des Institutions Juives de France (CRIF).

Talmudists work for the destruction of the West, as annually commemorated in their Ninth of Av  — Tish b’Av rites (see Judaism Discovered). Triumphs of western civilization are regarded by the religion of Orthodox Judaism as disasters and ritually lamented on Tish b’Av.

Mr. Wilders is worried about life under Sharia law, but Europe has been under Halachic (Talmudic) law for decades, without much of a murmur of protest. Does Wilders know the status of a stranger (ger) under the Halacha of the rabbis? He protests rule by Islamic supremacists but works with Zionist supremacists with the supposed joint intention of the restoration of European civilization — a civilization which Orthodox Judaism execrates!

Orthodox Judaism calls western civilization the "kochi ve’otzem yadi of Edom," i.e. the brute strength of their irreconcilable and perpetual racial enemy. Judaism, being more shrewd and duplicitous than Islam, has kept its religious secrets from the prying eyes of outsiders to a far greater extent than Islam.

Even when elite westerners have access to documentation that testifies to the authentic nature of rabbinic Judaism, they refuse to publicize it, in part because they are allied with it through Freemasonry and cognate secret societies which seek the rebuilding of the Third Temple at Jerusalem. Mr. Wilders is oblivious to the religious fanaticism and violence inherent in this rebuilding project, as he is to all the other evil and retrograde aspects of Orthodox Judaism.

As an American and a student of Judaism I am appalled by the extent to which my fellow Americans are serving as puppets of a hidden agenda, when, like Wilders, they shriek and wail about “Sharia law” as if it were in power in state houses across the U.S.

Yet they have zero interest in making the slightest mouse-like peep about the Talmudic law that is increasingly encroaching upon our Constitution and taking over our judiciary and legislature — not a word about Halachic law from the Sharia law protestors. Hence, the latter are very obviously being directed not by American patriots, but by powerful forces who have led them to practice selective indignation concerning the subversive religions (plural) undermining our nation.

 2. Obsession with the symptoms rather than the root of the European demographic crisis

The root of the crisis: selfish, pleasure-addicted European Whites are self-exterminating through contraception and abortion.

Foreign peoples who do not engage in the twin plagues of contraception and abortion will quite naturally replace those indigenous people who do engage in those despicable vices. This is a Law of Nature.

To use Islamic immigrants as an excuse to ally with Zionism and Talmudism is a failure of vision remarkable to behold. By this “logic" European Whites are obliged to support war on Muslim Iran and its “Holocaust” revisionist president. Will we never escape from offering our blood and treasure to the idol of Zionism and Judaism? Will we always be suckered into serving as rabbinic golem in Judaic wars, on the basis of one fantastic alibi or another?

Mr. Wilders and his self-extinguishing European brethren should first look to their own child-hating, death loving and aging societies for the cause of their demise.

Alien ethnics of all nationalities and religions will always rush in to fill a demographic vacuum brought on by the selfishness and degeneracy of baby-despising Europeans. Joining with Israelis in their brutal territorial wars will do absolutely nothing to save Europe from its own debased hedonism.

When European couples are again having five, ten and fifteen children as their great grand-parents did, they will begin their long peregrination on the road to regaining their ancestral lands.

European nations awash in atheism, euthanasia, abortion and birth control will never revive the civilization of their Christian ancestors, no matter how much they lick the Talmudic boots and share in the bloody crimes of rabbis and Zionists.

Hoffman is the editor of the hard-copy Revisionist History newsletter, and the author of Judaism Discovered.

Copyright© 2010 www.RevisionistHistory.org

Tuesday, May 25, 2010

Practically every word Mr. Goldman has written below, in his article for Asia Times, is either a lie or a deception. Can you spot them? We invite readers of Michael Hoffman's Judaism Discovered to submit responses to Goldman's devious misrepresentation of Judaism, which is so patently fraudulent it constitutes an insult to the intelligence of the reader. We will publish in this blog one or two of the best refutations of Goldman's drivel. Our latest Revisionist History Newsletter issue no. 52 analyzes the concept of the "Hebrew Republic" in the West, and challenges the myth which Goldman (and Michael Novak and Eric Nelson) retail, that Judaism is synonymous with the Old Testament and that the heritage of freedom bequeathed to the West by Biblical jurisprudence is a legacy of Talmudic Judaism. Only an audience bereft of the most basic knowledge of the subject matter could be suckered by such brazen buncombe. Talmudic Judaism, with its Pharisee-derived Mishnah, and its Babylonian Talmud, is the very antipode of the law of Yahweh's Old Testament.

Mr. Goldman advances, with typical Pharisee conceit, the moral superiority of Talmudic Judaism over Islam, attempting what no con man before the modern era could achieve, a linkage between the murderous violence and rabbinic dictatorship of Talmudic Judaism, and the Christian West's heritage of freedom and liberty.

Wife-beating, sharia, and Western law
By David P. Goldman | Asia Times | May 25, 2010

...(Muslim) Sharia (law) resembles Halakha (Judaic law), but by construction, for the same reason the Koran resembles the Torah: it is derived from it, with self-serving adjustments (Ishmael becomes the heir of Abraham rather than Isaac). But the principles of the two legal systems are radically different. That is why Jewish observance of Halakha never has clashed with the legal systems of modern democracy while sharia inevitably must conflict, and in the most intractable and intimate way, that is, in matters of family law.

The term "law" applied to Judaism and Islam means entirely different things to radically different peoples. Civil law rests ultimately on the state's monopoly of violence. In Muslim states, civil and religious law are identical, such that sharia courts hold the sword of the state. No Jewish religious court has had the capacity to inflict violence since the 1st century CE; the first detailed codification of Jewish law appears in the 3rd century in the Mishnah. The rabbis of antiquity explicitly put in abeyance ancient applications of violence, such as the injunction to kill a rebellious son (Deuteronomy 21:18-21); the Talmud (Sanhedrin 71a) states that no Jewish court ever handed down such a sentence. Killing of rebellious children, as noted, happens in Muslim countries, and is sadly frequent among Muslim immigrant communities in the West.

Jewish law, though, requires no adaptation to modern Western law, for modern Western law ultimately derives from Jewish principles, as Harvard's Eric Nelson most recently showed in his 2010 book The Hebrew Republic, and Michael Novak explained in his 2002 volume On Two Wings. Jewish law proceeds from God's Covenant with each member of the Jewish people. The notion of an intermediate sovereign, such as Islam's "governor" of the family, is inconceivable in Jewish law, for there is only one Sovereign, the King of Kings. The powers of the earthly sovereign derive from God and are limited by God's laws. The American founding notion of "inalienable rights" stems from the Hebrew concept of covenant: a grant of rights implies a Grantor, and an irreversible grant implies a God who limits his own sovereignty in covenant with mankind. (End quote)

Mr. Goldman is senior editor at First Things
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